#2678391 - 02/23/09 04:48 PM
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There were plenty of aircraft externals, some textured some just wire frame, displayed by the devs in the KOTS days. Most of the old screens are archived at this link. I'm not sure why the dev's don't have them posted on the new site, they look very good even though some of them are a couple of years old. http://wwiaircombat.com/pics/index.php?cat=3I'll leave it to others to come up with a possible AI aircraft list, I'm not that good at WW1 aircraft ID's
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#2678416 - 02/23/09 05:10 PM
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We see that Master, and that'll be cool! I think it's probably better if you guys access what's been archived from the previews, I could get confused and embarass myself. The only thing is, as you dig, and the older the screenshots are, the less they'll look like the finished product. This might be why some of these older views aren't officially archived (they're even better looking now).
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#2678588 - 02/23/09 10:09 PM
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#2678623 - 02/23/09 11:07 PM
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Oh dear, they have developed quite a number of aircraft over the years! I better save up some cash because I'm going to buy all of em! Are there going to be package deals? Buy two Albatros and get a Halberstadt for free?
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#2678624 - 02/23/09 11:10 PM
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Gotta find the SSW D.III!
It was made by a third-party developer called Daniel Santos, I seem to remember...
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#2678636 - 02/23/09 11:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure your link (in your first post) to the Sopwith Pup is actually linking to the Camel.
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#2678655 - 02/24/09 12:01 AM
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Oscar, I think Master and Freycinet deserve the cake! I looked all over for that SSW D.III with no success. Of course Smosh's eagle-eyes knew something wasn't right with that big-nosed Pup!
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#2678679 - 02/24/09 12:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure your link (in your first post) to the Sopwith Pup is actually linking to the Camel. Good eye indeed but I cant take you serious as an enthusiast until you address this situation properly. You must go through the proper sequence for getting an error in the first post fixed. I will not change it until someone shows me they are atrue enthusiast via PM... edit: LMAO it is changed already
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#2679494 - 02/25/09 03:11 AM
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You didnt tread on toes lol (read the last line of my first post) Oddly no one has swore at me yet... I thought you guys were true enthusiasts! The lack of a true WWI Sim has made you all weak... and your mother's ugly! (Wait, we cant do that here or the thread will get locked...)
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#2679578 - 02/25/09 06:30 AM
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Guys, what are the first two flyable planes again? I think one was a Spad but can't find the post now. Also, I think I read you can buy two additional planes when the game is released to make it a total of 4 planes at release. What are the 4 planes?
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#2679602 - 02/25/09 08:35 AM
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Buddy, I think RoF will release with the N28 and Albatross D5, and you can also buy additionally the Fokke DVII and the Spad XIII.
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#2679617 - 02/25/09 09:42 AM
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Wish Viks would pop in this thread and tell us "yes all those planes and more!" well, im here Im cant tell exactly that, but there will be more than 4 planes for release Cant tell right now which ones - they are in progress to be finished, but there is a quad of 100% - Fokker D.VII and SPAD XIII with game (player controlled) + Albatros D.Va and Nieuport 28 to upgrade (or as AI controlled with game).
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#2679730 - 02/25/09 02:37 PM
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Yep, the name just fits nicely! Go change the topic title!
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#2680167 - 02/25/09 10:27 PM
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Nice pictures FlyRetired. That completes the plane list until someone spots a new plane in a screen or video. I have not found my 1920's era books yet. They are probably in the garage but I will hunt them down and put those trucks on the list sooner or later. The Master List That is a good one!
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#2680362 - 02/26/09 03:21 AM
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Wish Viks would pop in this thread and tell us "yes all those planes and more!" well, im here Im cant tell exactly that, but there will be more than 4 planes for release Cant tell right now which ones - they are in progress to be finished, but there is a quad of 100% - Fokker D.VII and SPAD XIII with game (player controlled) + Albatros D.Va and Nieuport 28 to upgrade (or as AI controlled with game). Awesome! More than 4 plane...yeah! I hope the DR. I is one of them...fingers crossed.
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#2680802 - 02/26/09 07:06 PM
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No sign of the AEG twin engined german bomber jobby then? That'd be nice to have as a flyable at some point. Unless its the secret aircraft..........
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#2681983 - 02/28/09 01:58 PM
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Hi FlyR, yes. Gr.Viper appears to have insider knowledge and is of course located ideally geographically. Must try to get him to post here more. You probably have already read the thread, but just in case: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=37285Few interesting titbits, OFF, offline play, and to me especially, vibration. Edit: Good to see you here Gr.Viper! Think I just assumed it was flying as you also described the animation of rear gunners.
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#2682371 - 03/01/09 02:00 AM
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Any news of the Eindecker and Bullet?
It would really be a shame if they were to only do the late war planes...........
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#2682417 - 03/01/09 02:53 AM
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Thanks for the list, good job.
I know the SE5a is on the list and has a cockpit view, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. Does anyone know whether it is shipping with the game, or it's a pay to download plane?
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#2682451 - 03/01/09 03:38 AM
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Good question. From Gr.Viper on this Thread: http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showtopic=37285"E.g. there may not be a flyable SE5a in the box release, but you might see AI or other players online fly them - to get yourself into its pit, you'll have to pay." Now how do you intrepret that? Is this a real example, or just a generic example to explain a point? I think its the latter. Perhaps Gr.Viper can clarify if he sees these posts or you can post at the thread at CombatAce - he is a moderator and regular there. And keep in mind whatever is discussed now may be still changed ... AFAIK this is all we really have on whether the Se5a will be in or out, paid addon or not.
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#2682518 - 03/01/09 09:02 AM
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It will be the first wwi flight simulation with micro transactions. You only get 4 planes to fly but for a nominal fee of 2.50 you can buy a one life in any of 20 other planes (Just kidding)
I am ok with buying an expansion pack. It seems like a cheat though if they have the expansion pack ready when the game ships but as long as the pricing isn't obscene I am ok with buying the extra planes. He-he, paying for ONE LIFE in another crate, that would be hilarious.... - But would probably also make for more realistic online combats! I don't think charging for extra planes is anything near being a cheat because it will allow casual players who just want a sniff at WWI air combat to get that. After trying out a few planes they can then decide if they want to plonk down more money for more planes. Of course it makes business sense to have some interesting planes as downloads, and not just the Siemens-Schuckert...
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#2682540 - 03/01/09 11:24 AM
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Dave, that's a great find! Master, there's almost all the object previews we ever saw while the sim was working up (as GT).
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#2683040 - 03/02/09 05:08 AM
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Thank you for the replies BigBouncer and Viper! Very much appreciated. I have full confidence in this sim being truly fantastic, that was my only concern, and I use the word loosely. To know that there *could* well be a flyable SE5a avalable from release.. Well, in short, i've just died and gone to ww1 sim heaven. btw, at the pay per life idea. That would certainly give the dogfights a different slant. The Twenty Minuters, that's how long on average a new RAF pilot at Hyperlobby lasts before they have to purchase another life.
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#2703209 - 04/05/09 01:15 PM
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Worth a bump for casual lurkers, maybe the info should be made sticky?
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#2703367 - 04/05/09 08:16 PM
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Worth a bump for casual lurkers, maybe the info should be made sticky? Thanks Mog, good call!
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#2723191 - 05/12/09 07:03 PM
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Check out the first posting in this thread!
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#2723200 - 05/12/09 07:09 PM
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I'm seeing a hell of a lot of planes there that will be in the sim Am I getting this wrong and Question Two: is there a Dolphin Ming
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#2723258 - 05/12/09 07:48 PM
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#2725448 - 05/15/09 07:13 PM
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There's another screenie of the Breguet in the pics thread now, maybe better. http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4296/2009514182614.jpgThe replca looks a bit diffferent, no windows on the side of the rear station.
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#2725602 - 05/15/09 11:49 PM
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The replca looks a bit diffferent, no windows on the side of the rear station.
The replica is different in many aspects. It was built on B14-B2 plans, but (for security reasons): - wheel undercarriage is different - they added a tail wheel - wing profile is different (on the replica it's a NACA profile with less drag) - Ailerons are larger. ... etc...
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#2725615 - 05/16/09 12:28 AM
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#2725807 - 05/16/09 12:47 PM
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Thanks for the clarifications Rama. The replica also doesn't seem to have the trailing edge lifting flaps as was typical on the B2 model, while the A2 usually was not so equipped as it was used "mostly" for reconnaissance work. Here's a typical Breguet skin guide I've done of ten distinct schemes for one mission, although I haven't seen the U.S. 96th Aero Squadron's Breguets in-game yet. Because of supply difficulties in getting the Br.14 B2s, the Americans converted many of their A2s to carry external bombs. I researched the bomb racks they fabricated and created the work-ups for them also (low-res version).
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#2725947 - 05/16/09 04:36 PM
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It would be nice to have one of these larger army co-op aircraft flyable in the sim. Some nice profiles here. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2002/october/galleria/Breguet.htmSeems strange now, post WW2, seeing a US aircraft with a swastica on the fin.
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heh this one has historical croatian red and white cubs (part of our national coat of arms) http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6535/breguet9th152q.jpgThat gives me an idea to put the cubes at the same spot....on my D-7
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#2726100 - 05/16/09 10:21 PM
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Thank you Rob and Jim, and Jim, you'll have to let us know the title of that book you're working on! The Breguet profile I showed above is one of many skin guides I did for the sim, but it's not a skinning template for the actual 3D model, and of course all the textures in RoF are done by Neoqb's wonderful artists. As an example of how that Breguet profile fits into some of the background work done for RoF, here's the mission guide, map, and a condensed image assembly of the remaining distinctive profiles done for that one mission, Mission 19:
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#2726116 - 05/16/09 10:44 PM
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Man, FR, that looks fantastic! I didn't realize this amount of detail went into missions and it's great to see. Regarding books, I'm working on two. Well, one. The first book is the Richthofen book, which is being printed now and should be out next month ( http://www.airpowereditions.com/our-books-red-baron.html ) . The Breguet illustrations I've drawn are for a pending book on the Aviation Militaire Belge (I do not know any official title yet) written by Walter M. Pieters. It will be THE book on the AMB and over 400 pages. I'm doing 70 profiles for it and I know Walter has 3,000 photographs from which to choose! I believe this will be published later this year or early next year.
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#2726191 - 05/17/09 03:18 AM
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PS: I recognize your cover profile from OTF. Yes, that's in the book. Hopefully it prints better than in OTF--I thought those Albs came out a little too banana-yellow. Should be more like this: Flattered you'll get the MvR book. You probably already most know everything in it but maybe you'll find something new here and there. Again, great stuff on the mission info! I really enjoyed what you posted of the mission description, plane skins and map. Most excellent. Seeing that made me impatient for the sim. (Edit: Man, the illustration is really reduced in here. Obviously, the actual profile is not nearly as jaggy.)
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FR -- I *must* insist that you stop posting material like that!! You are making me so anxious to see player made missions that my keyboard is now completely submerged in drool! All I can say is Wow!! Agreed, FR this sort of stuff is just what ROF needs out of the box, I just hope it makes it onto the CD, or the first patch.
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(Edit: Man, the illustration is really reduced in here. Obviously, the actual profile is not nearly as jaggy.)
Well its not reduced now, its taking over the board.
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I'm not sure if skin schemes can be directly linked to in-game aircraft now (other than the one the player selects for his mount). This is a feature/mechanism I've pushed for, and when assured will allow skins to be custom-applied per mission
I think I saw something about gradual wearing of skins during campaigns being possible FR, that would be via this mechanism you're talking about perhaps
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Thanks for the link, Freycinet. I hope I didn't hijack the thread with that Alb and I certainly don't want it taking over the board!
Yeah, FR, I'm sure you recall the "big debate" regarding the appearance of that little triangular area behind the cockpit--not quite on par with the color of Voss's F.1 cowling, but there's the "red crowd" and the "dark wood crowd." I went with red because on Manfred's D.V it appears so much darker (as dark as the wings, in fact) than on the (few) other Albs on which you can see a triangle area (where the factory headrest had been removed, for those wondering).
Anyway, have any more mission briefing/skins/maps you can (will) post?
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I think I saw something about gradual wearing of skins during campaigns being possible FR, that would be via this mechanism you're talking about perhaps
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That would be cool! I'm a HUGE fan of weathered plane skins! Agree with all that! With a slight caveat that IMO sometimes skinners get too crazy with weathering. Gradual weathering/wearing would be great. How 'bout the mumbo-ridiculous idea of visible repairs? For instance, return from a mission with your D.VII shot up a bit and the next mission you have a bunch of little cockade patches that remain for the rest of the missions! Or significant areas of patched linen, replacement (i.e. mis-matched) ailerons, etc. A drawback is that over time your machine would not historically match its real-life counterpart, but it could be a cool feature, nevertheless. Of course, I don't expect this to be implemented because it probably exceeds the priorities of, well, most. Still, it's not as crazy as my wanting bugs on the windscreen and leading edges! BTW, is there any in-cockpit damage modeled? Smashed instruments, bullet holes, etc?
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Very nice work Fly, will be fun to see that kind of history in the ROF SP campaign.
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Jim: Congratulations on the book; will look for it when it comes out. The plane illustration looks great and you obviously did a lot of research in creating them. What software programs do you use for these?
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I think I saw something about gradual wearing of skins during campaigns being possible FR, that would be via this mechanism you're talking about perhaps
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That would be cool! I'm a HUGE fan of weathered plane skins! Agree with all that! With a slight caveat that IMO sometimes skinners get too crazy with weathering. Gradual weathering/wearing would be great. How 'bout the mumbo-ridiculous idea of visible repairs? For instance, return from a mission with your D.VII shot up a bit and the next mission you have a bunch of little cockade patches that remain for the rest of the missions! Or significant areas of patched linen, replacement (i.e. mis-matched) ailerons, etc. A drawback is that over time your machine would not historically match its real-life counterpart, but it could be a cool feature, nevertheless. Of course, I don't expect this to be implemented because it probably exceeds the priorities of, well, most. Still, it's not as crazy as my wanting bugs on the windscreen and leading edges! BTW, is there any in-cockpit damage modeled? Smashed instruments, bullet holes, etc? We talked about the same thing while creating the Over Flanders Fields skins and tried to get a variety of new looking as well as older, worn looking skins. A progression in weathering/damage would be neat. It could be done with decal overlays so as to save file space. Most planes were not around long enough before they were upgraded with newer models, but it seems like that the damage could very well be kept tack of in the data base and at some point it could trigger an announcement that your plane is beyond repair and you must wait for a replacement. You would then get a new, clean, shinny, showroom one to fly again?
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#2726331 - 05/17/09 02:55 PM
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The altitudes listed on my mission workups are those when "contact activation" begins. As an example of ceilings, the maximum combat altitudes Nieuport 28s could reached often exceeded 5000 meters, and single aircraft in fine trim and tune could climb even higher. http://www.airminded.net/n28/n28test.html
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Thanks, Rabu. I use Photoshop to make those. I use it because it was a gift years ago and one day I decided to make airplane skins for IL2 and stop bothering others with my requests. Eventually a couple years ago skinning morphed into profiles.
That kind of weathering/damage modeling in Phase 4 would be great! Although, as you said, most planes aren't around very long--certainly not those I fly! Note to OFFers: When flying Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutters, it's generally a good idea to wait for your escort before crossing the lines...
FR, great stuff! What a cool mission, on its own or in the midst of a campaign. How unusual that would be, being ordered to find and attack a drifting balloon!
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5000m? In those?! They were brave, brave men. And patient. . .climb performance above 3,000 meters would be truly lousy!
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From the report that FR posted. 20mins to 5K. ARMY AIR SERVICE, TECHNICAL SECTION DEPARTMENT OF TESTS
NIEUPORT AIRPLANE
TYPE: Nie. 28 C 1. (Dihedral nul) ENGINE: Gnome, single valve, Type 9N.
REPORT OF TESTS Place: Villacoublay Date: October 14, 1917. Name of pilot: Mallard LOAD: 228 kgs. PROPELLAR: Levasseur Series: 592 No.(Test)
ALTITUDES (1) DURATION OF ASCENT HORIZONTAL SPEED in meters Minutes R.P.M (2) Km per hour R.P.M.(2) 1,000 2'25" 1250 2,000 5'15" 1240 198 1380 3,000 8'55" 1220 194 1360 4,000 13'25" 1210 189 1335 5,000 20'20" 1200 179 1290
Maximum altitude: 6800 m REMARKS (1) Standard Altitude (2) Revolutions of engine. 7 mins to go from 4K to 5K.......
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Thanks Papa!! ...I just finally finished wiping up the drool from the LAST time I visted this thread. I can't wait!!
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Yeah, bumping this thread wasn't a very nice act ^^ Anyway, am I the only one around here who wants to fly the Sopwith Dolphin?
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If we can find Dolphin plans there is a possibility that it could be built by neoqb or er, us
No. 19 Squadron RFC's plane for a time. Bit of a beast
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I hope the list eventually expands a little earlier in the war, to include the Eindecker (Fokker E.III?). Video link: Fokker Scourge I think a zeppelin (non-flyable?) might add some fun.
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#2826567 - 07/25/09 02:17 PM
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Bump.
Still can't understand why this thread isn't sticky......
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Hear Hear, Mogster. This may even sway a "fence sitter" to get into the sim if they see their fave ride has a chance to or definitely will be in the sim. Nice work too Master, thanks for the effort you took to find these gems. I wants me that Snipe! Se5a hopefully coming soon. Hee Hee Hee! *Kid at Christmas syndrome*
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#2826613 - 07/25/09 03:26 PM
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If we can find Dolphin plans there is a possibility that it could be built by neoqb or er, us
No. 19 Squadron RFC's plane for a time. Bit of a beast
Ming Windsock Data File # 54 would be a good place to start. #19 Sqd, isn't that the squadron that used the dumbbell squadron marking?
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#2826623 - 07/25/09 03:36 PM
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Ah, beggin yer pardon good Sir lol.....Didn't read the full thread before posting. Thanks to Flyretired et al too for seeking em out, but it was a good idea anyways, so yer getting credit too Master, whether you likes it or not! Hehehe And yes, this should be stuck to the page, with Marmite if necessaryCheers!
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#2826665 - 07/25/09 04:34 PM
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That Dolphin model is still very nice, even though these are very wip shots from 2005. I'd like to see the view from the Dolphin cockpit, with that high wing it looks atrocious I hope Neoqb have this on the flyable list. http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft/gbritain/sopwith_dolphin.phpEdit................ The layout in the link pic with the 2 upward pointing mgs almost in the pilots lap looks like one for the true mentalist
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http://www.wwi-models.org/IM/British/dolphin.htmlA nice 1/48 Dolphin model and good info. It seems that the Dolphin suffered from being a being a rather (ugly?) unconventional design than from any performance issues. Like the Se5a, US production seems to have been agreed if WW1 had dragged on into 1919. Hey we have have IL2 1946, maybe at some point we could have ROF 1919
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Hello, look here, those birds should be there already - they were made for the release of "Knights of the sky", the project that then became "Rise of Flight. http://wwiaircombat.com/pics/thumbnails.php?album=3&page=1The Dolphin's at page 2 lower right. Hmm, 3 pages, and you'll have to pay for each plane now - maybe that's just why some people are a bit reluctant towards this sim, after they expected to get all those planes with the initial one, for one price. Greetings, Catfish
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Just follow our simple instructions below to complete your membership and join our download community! Hmm Yes Brigs (thanks mate) that gennadich info and more on the Dolphin is in our EAF forum where Sporran and I are thinking on I was going to say that VikS hasn't replied to my request about neocube model specs and the state of their Dolphin-model play but on checking I see I didn't ask him yet. It'll be the drink, memory brownout Ming
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#2827742 - 07/27/09 10:30 AM
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That list goes quite a long way towards a complete late 1917-1918 planeset.
I remember one of the IL2 modellers posting a screenie showing all the models required to get one flyable ready for inclusion to IL2. There were rather a lot, maybe 30, several different lods to save resources when viewing the aircraft at different distances, several different damage states and other stuff that I can't remember. I suspect ROF is even more complex, although I'm not sure it uses variable distance lods though.
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Not seen any signs of visible LOD transitions at any time they're all perfectly formed and shining in the sunlight. Glinting We know now what's on the horizon but we also want to know what lies over the horizon hmm, hostage to fortune. In other words if they tell us what's over the horizon and it doesn't materialise by virtue of it being over the horizon- we may claim we've been lied to. Not good business But that unknowable flyable zone had better include the Sopwith. Series Ming
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#2845536 - 08/21/09 04:15 PM
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Well as perfect texels (whatever they are) are the future, according to Carmak and Id software, we should see an end to blurred textures forever. No more lod's just gloriously sharp textures from close up to long distance. Sounds like just the thing for flight sim terrain.
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